A Jehovah's Witness recently gave me the following response to the question posed in this topic (Why does a loving God allow animals to suffer?):
"God is allowing mankind the freedom that he rebelled for- which also includes animal abuse."
.....?
..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
A Jehovah's Witness recently gave me the following response to the question posed in this topic (Why does a loving God allow animals to suffer?):
"God is allowing mankind the freedom that he rebelled for- which also includes animal abuse."
.....?
http://buy.hereliesthetruth.com/#buy.
if you decide to buy a copy, please post and share your thoughts.. (i can't afford it really).
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It's difficult to recover from being in an organisation that insists it isn't a cult yet bears many cult characteristics. It's difficult to share or explain to members of other religious groups, or health or other professionals. It can be difficult to sort out in your own head.
A documentary Truth be Told went on digital release on 19 Dec. Directed by New York filmmaker and ex Witness Gregorio Smith, it's an exceptionally balanced and informative doco for anyone who is curious about what life in the JWs is really like. Based on in depth interviews with six ex Witnesses, plus staged insights into Kingdom Hall doctrine, the doco is currently being translated into a score of languages for international distribution as an important cultural document and fascinating viewing for anyone curious to understand more about the JW sect/cult/religion.
Go here to see trailers including generous snippets from interview footage, and to download http://buy.hereliesthetruth.com
http://buy.hereliesthetruth.com/#buy.
if you decide to buy a copy, please post and share your thoughts.. (i can't afford it really).
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"TRUTH BE TOLD is a new feature-length documentary film about growing up in the Jehovah's Witnesses religion.
The title refers to the Jehovah's Witnesses’ perception that their beliefs are 'the truth'. In this film, former Jehovah's Witnesses candidly discuss the spiritual, emotional and psychological harm inflicted by the religion. They reveal experiences including the effects of proselytizing door-to-door, shunning non-observant family and friends, suspension of critical thinking, suffering the discouragement of pursuing dreams like gaining a higher education, and missing other societal holidays and customs. The abuses explored in TRUTH BE TOLD are part of a wider examination into the culture of undue influence within the Jehovah’s Witnesses religion that continues to violate the basic human rights of members and their families worldwide."
http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
see last item:.
"media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from abc news new york".
"truth be told is an examination of the clear and present dangers of undue influence in the hands of fanatical religions and other high-control groups.
and it is important for our viewers to understand that the indoctrination, spiritual intimidation, ostracism and other human rights abuses discussed in the film did not just occur in the past.
they are happening right now to millions of jehovah's witnesses and their families worldwide.".
"FYI - The Xmas day event is a virtual viewing party whereby people across the globe who purchased the film will start watching it at 3PM in their respective time zones with a LIVE Q/A with film director Gregorio Smith to follow on Facebook/reddit.
Cities we're currently tracking are Melbourne, London, NYC and LA. More details on this soon!"
https://facebook.com/hereliesthetruth?refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fsearch&_rdr
http://buy.hereliesthetruth.com/#buy.
if you decide to buy a copy, please post and share your thoughts.. (i can't afford it really).
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Hi Tal. I didn't make this documentary, sorry if you got that impression (unless you meant 'you' in a general sense).
Maybe you could make that suggestion via Twitter
https://mobile.twitter.com/TRUTHBETOLDDOC
Has anyone else watched this yet? There are plans to translate it into different languages, and also to screen it worldwide on Christmas day.
Could be an effective anti-witnessing tool, or a way to explain to family who were never JW's what it was like for you?
http://buy.hereliesthetruth.com/#buy.
if you decide to buy a copy, please post and share your thoughts.. (i can't afford it really).
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TRUTH BE TOLD retweeted
Lloyd Evans @cedarsjwsurvey
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Looking forward to the Dutch premiere of @TRUTHBETOLDDOC in Amsterdam tomorrow!
"truth be told is an examination of the clear and present dangers of undue influence in the hands of fanatical religions and other high-control groups.
and it is important for our viewers to understand that the indoctrination, spiritual intimidation, ostracism and other human rights abuses discussed in the film did not just occur in the past.
they are happening right now to millions of jehovah's witnesses and their families worldwide.".
http://buy.hereliesthetruth.com/#buy.
if you decide to buy a copy, please post and share your thoughts.. (i can't afford it really).
.
http://buy.hereliesthetruth.com/#buy
If you decide to buy a copy, please post and share your thoughts.
(I can't afford it really)
"truth be told is an examination of the clear and present dangers of undue influence in the hands of fanatical religions and other high-control groups.
and it is important for our viewers to understand that the indoctrination, spiritual intimidation, ostracism and other human rights abuses discussed in the film did not just occur in the past.
they are happening right now to millions of jehovah's witnesses and their families worldwide.".
Blondie, good question. This is all I could find... Maybe contact the director? I'm not promoting, just sharing info.
"We're planning a coordinated global viewing of TRUTH BE TOLD with a social-media facilitated Q&A to follow on Xmas day. More on this soon."